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Trading Standards and the Police

3 Monkeys and eBay

So here is the scam pulled when you go to the police about eBay fraud.

The police will say it’s a civil matter knowing full well that fraud is a criminal matter as is selling a car that is unsafe for the public roads under section 75 of the 1988 road traffic act but if you insist they will pass you off to the trading standards informing you that the trading standards have more powers than the police to deal with the matter.

Weeks later the trading standards will contact you and say words to the effect that you have a good case and to leave it with them whilst they contact eBay for more detail and this is where the scam starts as months later having been patient you again ask the trading standards how the case is going and then suddenly they turn around knowing you no longer have access to eBay pages and say all the evidence you have provided is circumstantial and you can not prove a crime has been committed.

Fortunately in my case I managed to save some of the eBay pages and insisted the trading standards take action to bring the fraudster to justice but this was still meet with a wall of silence and the trading standards then have the cheek to try and say that if you can not provide them with the scammers real name and address then they will drop the case even when they were aware from the very start that the other person involved was a fraudster using many names, eBay accounts and addresses and this comes after eBay has confirmed eight of the accounts opened by the fraudster were opened using fake names, address and bank details.

By now you are probably about four months into your struggle for justice and the trading standards have done next to nothing having been provided with all the evidence by yourself so your maybe left asking just what is the tax payer getting for his money but if like me you continue to push then the next obstacle you are faced with is the trading standards then waste more time by saying they are talking with the police about the case and the police are still saying no law has been broken so it’s on to the independent police complaints commission (IPCC) after seven months being thrown between the Police and trading standards when you know yourself the law has been broken and both the trading standards and the police are playing a game of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

This is a serious claim to make against the police and trading standards with only your own experience to go on but if you look a little harder then you will soon discover you are not alone and some interesting facts start coming to life.

Would you like cream in you tea officer sir ?

Law enforcers use eBay training to combat online crime

7,500 Investigations and arrest or conviction of 200 criminals eBay has recorded a significant reduction in the number of people having a bad experience on its site, following a year-long training programme with 2,245 police and trading standards officers.

Police officers from 34 constabularies and three major law enforcement agencies, including the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA), British Transport Police and Europol took part in the programme, which showed how the eBay site can be used as an investigative tool, generating valuable evidence to build cases against online criminals.

Ebays back pocket twists scales of justice

I read this as million of tax payers money was spent training 2,245 officers who were only able to arrest 200 (not convict) criminals despite having 7,500 cases reported which gives them a clear up rate of thirty seven to one according to the official figures and that's if all arrest turned into convictions and these figures are contested as being a mere seventy by others monitoring cyber crime.

eBay is not exactly known as being honest when it comes to the law and quite frankly I see this so called 'special training' given to the police by eBay as something like the MAFIA providing the police with gun control lessons and this may go a long way towards explaining why the police are so reluctant to investigate eBay fraud.

Victims turn vigilante in hunt for eBay conmen

The world of online auctions is becoming as notorious as the Wild West. Unscrupulous thieves con innocent buyers and the authorities seem powerless to intervene.

Fraudtracking.com, a campaigning website, estimates that British customers are losing £500,000 a day through fraudulent transactions on the various auction sites, but there were just 70 convictions for online auction fraud last year.

However, there’s a new posse in town, a group of UK cyber-vigilantes intent on running the internet auction cowboys out of town.

it now looks like we now need 'vigilantes' because eBay and the police won't do the job they are being paid for which may explain why the public has such low confidence in the police and eBay members are leaving eBay so lets see how big the problem is and see if I am alone in reporting the cover up between eBay, the trading standards and the police.

eBay's Billion Dollar Scam

We believe eBay make $1 billion a year from misleading, fraudulent, stolen, or counterfeit items offered for sale on eBay. We report some, and eBay do nothing leading us to conclude that eBay are content to makes profits from fakes, fraud, and deception. That's more than the GDP of countries like Monaco.

Scams, Fraud, Lies, Deception
We are convinced that eBay hosts a large number of auctions and other for sale listings, which are lacking in honesty or integrity in some way, and that a significant proportion of its listings are unethical, dishonest, misleading or fraudulent in some way. Over a period of time, we have noticed listings which would contravene UK Trading Standards laws, or other UK or international laws. We have read most of the eBay publicity and guidelines, and believe there is also a vast gulf between what eBay says and what appears to actually happen. Only major single frauds seem to get media attention, and we believe these are only the tip of a gargantuan iceberg.


Pants down
They are neglecting their customers; they should make a shed load of information available to help people to avoid this." Like others Gold says he hit a brick wall when he tried to get other bodies involved: "I went to trading standards - they weren't interested. I even compiled a dossier on the seller and sent it to his local police force. Subsequently they told me they were aware of eBay fraud but don't deal with it.

Police officially ignore eBay scams

What we find is users come back to us saying the police are not interested because it's only a £500 laptop, or whatever it might be. When we try to get police involved sometimes they will say'd love to help you but if it is not over x threshold thousands of pounds, we cannot”, the priorities are generally around higher-value issues. What happens on eBay tends to be lower-value higher-volume crimes. Michael Barrett, chief information security officer at electronic payments firm PayPal, says this practice is resulting in unnecessary crimes being committed. You could argue that this is causing the public real harm, he said.You will often find there is a threshold before you can get a prosecutor interested in a case. What we do is slowly build a dossier on an individual [perpetrator] until they reach the threshold.

It’s great that eBay have representation at the highest level, it’s a real pity the police routinely ignore fraud on eBay concentrating on crimes with higher monetary value. Way back in 2002 Tony Blair promised to wage war on crime, perhaps when the committee produces its report the war on crime will include eBay crime.


If you have been scammed then ensure you take a copy of all the pages and don’t take no for an answer from the police or trading standards as you have a right to justice even if it looks like you have to take the world on and on that note I rest my case.


Comment (1) Posted on 8/12/2009 by Sidney
Dont buy cars from ebay!!!

I also got ripped on a car purchase via ebay and lost £1,000 on the deal and this when investigated further also had the fraud of a fake M.O.T certificate. I contact Ebay initially and also got false id from what the person had told me, (and I thought that he was doing me a favour by meeting me half way at a cost, obviously now I have figured it was because he did not want me to know that the address was not where he lived).

I total agree with your comments regarding the Police and Trading Standards and would also ask why e-bay allows people to register using a pre-paid credit card!!! Due to my loss will never use e-bay again.

I would however like to comment on how good your site is it hightlights a lot of facts against e-bay practices.

Sidney


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